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Kanye has been through more controversy than Jay...is a bigger pop star...a fashion icon...has brought out more artists..and has remained at the forefront of hip hop since his first album..
no real beefs like jay has had tho...
Jays smashed some of the greats in hip hop to smithereens tho..
well?
Kanye still idolizes Jay
he ain't more powerfull, but musically inspiration to people I would say yes
the downfall is Kanye don't write alot of his stuff
so?...Eminem still idolizes Dre like theres no tomorrow..
and Eminem IS more powerful and influential than Dre is
Well, yeah, i get what youre saying. I think both had influence in the Hiphop world. Its just that Jay-Z is almost at his end of his career, while Kanye is still rising. I respect both of them and I like both of them.They both did their part in the world and thats good
Dr. Dre STILL remains the powerful dude out here
well of course i mean everyone hes ever produced for Em,2Pac,Snoop the dudes a living legned but i see him going out when Em goes out...Which is soon but as for Jay n kanye..ehh i dont care for both but Jay is more inspirational personally for me being that im from where he is but iv never liked kanye never thought he was any good hes no rapper hes a pop star
mr.dubios are aware the extent of which wiggas love em?
anyway i say musically he's more influential, and has cross boundaries, and done fairly well after crossing over said boundaries. and it's into shit jay hasn't done musically merely because he's just a rapper.
but overall every rapper, ye included want that jay i could retire anyday now money, and success.
the katrina/bush comment wasn't about music..
jay has never been apart of something so controversial..
i think at this point in jay's career, kanye is the more influential, especially in production.
id say it depends on the person viewing the situation and which part of rap music your speaking of...
if its the mtv pop star aspect, then yes...
but if your talking the talent of a rapper, then id say no...
Meh they're both pretty big but I wonder how big the buzz will be around jays camp after j Coles new album has dropped
overall..every aspect..Quote:
Originally Posted by Boobs
world view type shit
the obvious answer would be Kanye then....pop music itself is larger than rap listeners....makes it to where no matter what genre it originates from, it can leak into any genre of listeners playlists....ive heard Kanye playing on rock stations, but never have heard Jay-Z doing such...Quote:
Originally Posted by RXL
while everyone knows who Jay-Z is, and he was a huge part of pop culture, i think that Kanye has acquired fans where Jay-Z couldnt....he also just comes off as more of a pop figure than Jay does....
Kanye will never be as big bcuz of his attitude. Like every 1 owes him something. Jay Never smashed Nas
Jayz is my favorite rapper
But Kanye is the better dresser hands down
You would think with hundreds of millions Jay would know how to dress.
Jayz is my favorite rapper
But Kanye is the better dresser hands down
You would think with hundreds of millions Jay would know how to dress.
No heres why
kanye is a homo...and when he comes
out the closet..nothn else will matter...
Dont doubt my logic
jay dresses like a male...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porno Nigga
kanye dresses like a metrosexual...
I would jay-z, yu knoamsayin. Kanye hasnt done wat jay has done in hip hop.... Jay's bigger
Yall do know kanye sucks penis...literally
There is no way Kanye is more influential. NO FUCKIN WAY. Kanye has and never will be on Jays level in terms of rapping and music making. Jay is a very savvy businessman and just in general a clever guy..Kanye time and time again does stupid ass fuckin shit. I mean look at WTT fior an example, you can see whos "influence" fucked up that album(not that it was to bad). Jay is clicked up with apple,itunes and is pretty much revolutionising how music is distributed and listened to. Its a no brainer, Jay is alot of rungs on the lader in terms of influential people.
how is jay z revolutionizing* the way music is being distributed and listened to now?..
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i think that jay-z is ridding kanyes triumphs now the watch throne album sounds like a kanye album featuring jay z rather than a collaborative.
Depends on to whom you mean. Seems a lot of the teens like Kanye.
I believe he is more powerful. While Jay-Z is more accomplished, better rapper, etc.. at this moment his star power is in decline. Kanye West is rising and has demonstrated the ability to adapt to his current musical surroundings if NOT setting the standards. He is also way more controversial which means people will be watching him a lot more than they will watch Jay-Z who has disappeared off the face of the bloggers planet being he isnt stabbing anyone or selling coke anymore. AS FAR AS WE KNOW
They're both different, it's hard to tell
Is it just me or has jay-z owned one of the most popular clothing lines in the hip-hop community and jay also has always been in spotlight but the few years after the black album. Although, ye is getting to jays level he has not yet matched jay fame wise or signings. Jay signed j.cole who is own his way to gold already if his sells stay up in the first week. Now, kayne has also signed a good artist in BIG SEAN. But jay has J COLE which is better and didn't even have no promotion for his album at all until the day it dropped so what does that tell you about jay that just being his artist his influence on hip-hop can alone get you 300k to 500k sales. Ye cannot do that for a artist cause his fan base is not on HOV's level yet.
i believe Kanye West is more powerful and influential then Jay Z because he's more relevent. Jay Z's the old man that every now and then he lets the industry know he still has it and he's still one of the best, but at the end of the day nobody really cares, they just accept it and go on with their life. Kanye west people reflect on his music and react to what he does, like the Taylor Swift incident. and his last album where he had the Good Fridays then everybody wanted to do that for a while. hes just more relevent if you ask me
does more relevant mean more powerfull tho
i think so, if your relevent you have more support i believe, at the end of the day its all voice of opinion
the real obvious answer would be jay-z. his iconic status is legendaary and kanyes isnt. controversy doesnt make you influential and jay has had to help kanye out of a few incidents like with the snatching the mic from taylor swift. more people cared bout what jay tought boout kanye doing it then they cared bout kanye doing it. liquor, clothes. movies, politics, etc jay is that dude and one of the most influential people in hip hop and hasnt faded one bit. as for rap goes sure jay is a better raapper as for pop goes kanye barely wins because jaay has to bif of a discography to even compare kanyes to yet. dont think jus cuz u can see the puppet more that the puppeteer isnt more powerfulQuote:
Originally Posted by RXL
jay is the man easily
In my opinion, no not yet. But I think Kanye is more relevant @ this moment in time tbh.
id say yea just because white ppl think Jay-z cool but white kids like kanye nowadays jayz is getting old
I agree with Kanye being more relevent, disagree wit him being more ''powerfull'' tho
I agree with Kanye being more relevent, disagree wit him being more ''powerfull'' tho
I think there is a yes/no aspect to this.
In todays world, the mainstream music scene, fashion, forward moving music, and celebrity, Kanye is definitely more influential, that;s is how I have began to see Kanye, as a celebrity, I mean, I know they're both technically celebrities, but Kanye imo has begun to be defined by his clothes, cars, lifestyle more so than his music, he's always topping the charts, and is always trying new things with his songs, and really cracking the mainstream. However, Jay has an everlasting status as one of the most talented, respected and revered artists in hip hop, and music in general, to hip hop fans and artists especially, I think Jay remains on a higher pedestal than Kanye.